iPhone SE 4 to debut early next year with Face ID, OLED display, and Apple's A18 chip

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Rumor mill: Apple's upcoming budget iPhone SE 4 handset is set to launch early next year. We had previously heard that the iPhone SE would receive a slew of features that have trickled down from Cupertino's latest phones, including Apple Intelligence support and Face ID. Now, new leaks have revealed even more details about the fourth-generation iPhone SE.

The latest info on the iPhone SE 4 comes from Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo. He writes in a Medium post that mass production of the company's cheapest handset will begin this December, with projected production numbers of around 8.6 million units from December 2024 to the first quarter of 2025. It's seems likey that the phone will launch in either March or April, which lines up with reports from last July.

Earlier this month, Bloomberg's Apple expert Mark Gurman wrote that the updated iPhone SE, codenamed V59, will be the company's new entry-level model, but it will feature a number of upgrades over the last update: the 2022 iPhone SE (third generation), which offered 5G connectivity as the most notable improvement over the 2nd-gen handset.

Probably the biggest upgrade in the iPhone SE 4 will be the removal of the home button, meaning the handset will join the other Apple devices that use Face ID. It's said to closely resemble the iPhone 14, including the notch cutout, and use an OLED instead of LCD display.

Gurman also said that the iPhone SE 4 will likely be powered by the same A18 chip found in the iPhone 16 and 16 Plus, thereby enabling support for Apple Intelligence.

Now, tipster @Jukanlosreve has posted what's claimed to be the iPhone SE 4's spec sheet on X. The list backs up Gurman's claim that the handset will use the A18 SoC and Face ID, adding that the phone will feature 8GB of LPDDR5X memory, 128GB of storage, a 12MP selfie cam, and a single 48MP camera that uses a Sony IMX904 sensor.

According to the alleged specs, the iPhone SE 4 will also pack Wi-Fi 6, a USB-C port, Bluetooth 5.3, and have a 6.06-inch screen with a 2532 x 1170 resolution. That's a large increase in screen size over the 4.7-inch iPhone SE from 2022, though it does line up with the rumor that Apple is taking design cues from the iPhone 14 for the next SE model.

Other specs include IP68-rated water and dust protection and a 3,279mAh battery, a big jump over the 3rd-gen iPhone SE's 2,018mAh.

As for the price, Jukanlosreve's post has the iPhone SE 4 selling for $499 or $549 in March 2025. A hefty hike over its predecessor's $429 launch MSRP, but Apple will probably justify this by pointing at its advanced features.

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iPhone SE 4 to debut early next year with Face ID, OLED display, and Apple's A18 chip

 
So, everything that makes the SE an SE will be removed/replaced. As a bonus Apple will turn the thing into a *$&%#^#@ PHABLET.

Way to go Apple. You lost me. When my beloved third gen SE goes EOL I'll find a different solution, perhaps even ditch smartphones altogether.

I did not miss smartphones when they didn't exist and if necessary I can go back there. Both my laptop and my iPad have SIM slots so I can access the Web without hotspot.
 
Anton Longshot said:
So, everything that makes the SE an SE will be removed/replaced. As a bonus Apple will turn the thing into a *$&%#^#@ PHABLET.

Way to go Apple. You lost me. When my beloved third gen SE goes EOL I'll find a different solution, perhaps even ditch smartphones altogether.

I did not miss smartphones when they didn't exist and if necessary I can go back there. Both my laptop and my iPad have SIM slots so I can access the Web without hotspot.
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So, the SE was always defined as an apple phone that uses older case/screen designs, while using the newest apple processor. As far as I can tell, this all applies to the SE4.

I get not liking larger phones but...blame the market. They buy the big phones in droves. Same reason the mini was discontinued.

The standard iphone design is still small enough to use one handed. This SE4 appears to use the same case as the iphone 16/15/14, which is perfectly small enough for one handed use. screen size =! case size.
 
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Anton Longshot said:
So, everything that makes the SE an SE will be removed/replaced. As a bonus Apple will turn the thing into a *$&%#^#@ PHABLET.

Way to go Apple. You lost me. When my beloved third gen SE goes EOL I'll find a different solution, perhaps even ditch smartphones altogether.

I did not miss smartphones when they didn't exist and if necessary I can go back there. Both my laptop and my iPad have SIM slots so I can access the Web without hotspot.
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Ditched my SE a long time ago. The screen is so small that most apps/webpages were just flat out broken. I get the appeal of a one-hand device but it has to actually work…
 
Anton Longshot said:
So, everything that makes the SE an SE will be removed/replaced. As a bonus Apple will turn the thing into a *$&%#^#@ PHABLET.

Way to go Apple. You lost me. When my beloved third gen SE goes EOL I'll find a different solution, perhaps even ditch smartphones altogether.

I did not miss smartphones when they didn't exist and if necessary I can go back there. Both my laptop and my iPad have SIM slots so I can access the Web without hotspot.
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It's all of 6% taller and 6% wider, does that break your pocket somehow?
 
Seems perfectly acceptable. Pretty much any phone you get will perform just fine. Unless you need flagship features, which most people don't, it's pointless to buy a top tier phone. I'm not saying don't buy one, people are free to spend their money how they please. But I have a feeling I'm going to be going on my 4th year with my S21+ and have no intention of replacing it any time soon. When the day finally comes where I'm forced to replace this I guess I'll look at the market. I think buying a flagship only makes sense if you plan on holding onto it for more than 2 years. In the construction industry, I know tons of people who break their phones several times a year. They get the insurance plan knowing they're going to break it and just get a new phone every few months.

This seems like a nice option if I was into iOS. It is still just a little too small for me, but I'm a big guy with big hands and can make flagships look tiny. I've been disappointed in the direction Android has been going and I say that as a strong Linux guy. Maybe I should try living with an older iPhone before I make a commitment?

Still, this is an interesting option.
 
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Ditched my SE a long time ago. The screen is so small that most apps/webpages were just flat out broken. I get the appeal of a one-hand device but it has to actually work…
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I ditched my 12 Mini for a similar reason, although it was more a "didn't work well" vs. broken on the not-as-small screen. And at the time, covid lockdowns make the extra portability mostly worthless.

However, I actually just switched back to the 12 Mini (never sold it) as a way to use my phone less. Two days in, my plan is working. Time will tell if the small screen friction is a boon or an annoyance I can't live with.

Honestly, I wish Apple would make something between the Mini and the, uh, Standard? You could probably bump the 5.4" mini to 5.7ish and have a bit more room for battery and components, and most importantly, websites/apps screen real estate while still claiming to be a small phone. Especially as the standard and pro keep getting bigger.
 
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Seems perfectly acceptable. Pretty much any phone you get will perform just fine. Unless you need flagship features, which most people don't, it's pointless to buy a top tier phone. I'm not saying don't buy one, people are free to spend their money how they please. But I have a feeling I'm going to be going on my 4th year with my S21+ and have no intention of replacing it any time soon. When the day finally comes where I'm forced to replace this I guess I'll look at the market. I think buying a flagship only makes sense if you plan on holding onto it for more than 2 years. In the construction industry, I know tons of people who break their phones several times a year. They get the insurance plan knowing they're going to break it and just get a new phone every few months.

This seems like a nice option if I was into iOS. It is still just a little too small for me, but I'm a big guy with big hands and can make flagships look tiny. I've been disappointed in the direction Android has been going and I say that as a strong Linux guy. Maybe I should try living with an older iPhone before I make a commitment?

Still, this is an interesting option.
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I have no idea what the android ecosystem is thinking. Low end its just motorola and samsung, and god I wouldnt touch one of those sammys. high end its just samsung and google, and neither of those are appealing. Mid range is the oneplus? I cant think of any suitable replacement for my thinkphone.

If apple would just drop the walled garden for the app store already.....
 
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