Outrageous $200 trillion climate hack proposes blasting diamonds into the atmosphere

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The big picture: Researchers are leaving no stone unturned in the race to find ways of putting the brakes on global warming – even if that means pulverizing trillions of dollars' worth of diamonds to sprinkle in the atmosphere. A new study published in Geophysical Research Letters has seriously examined this audacious "sun-dimming" scenario as a potential (albeit extreme) tool in the climate crisis fight.

The premise is based on the idea of solar geoengineering via stratospheric aerosol injection. Basically, it involves seeding the upper atmosphere with lots of tiny particles that can reflect some of the sun's incoming rays back into space before they reach the surface, creating a cooling effect. It's been theorized that dispersing around 5 million tons of pulverized diamond dust per year could lower global temperatures by nearly 2.9°F.

Before you start stashing away your family jewels, know that pulling this off would require a mind-boggling $200 trillion investment over 45 years to have the desired impact of keeping warming just under the 2.7°C (4.9°F) threshold. Past that point, the risks of catastrophic climate change spiral out of control.

As reported by Science, the researchers tested diamond dust along with six other aerosol particle candidates such as sulfur using complex computer modeling. They looked at factors like how well the particles disperse without clumping up, their atmospheric lifetimes, and whether they resist turning into acid rain.

Surprisingly, the diamond dust crushed the competition – staying finely distributed without coagulating and sticking around for a while. Sulfur, one of the more practical options being considered, tended to clump up more easily.

Of course, dumping massive amounts of aerosols into the sky doesn't come without risks and potential side effects that would need to be carefully studied. There are also obvious economic hurdles given the exorbitant price tag.

"If you ask me today what's going to get deployed, it's gonna be sulfate," Douglas MacMartin, an engineer at Cornell University who studies climate science, told the Science magazine. Sulfur pollution from volcanoes gives us real-world examples to study, and as a gas it would be easier to disperse from aircraft than diamond micro-particles.

As already mentioned, it'd be significantly cheaper too. Another study estimated that synthetic diamond would cost roughly $500,000 per ton, making it about 2,400 times more expensive than sulfur.

However, even if raining diamonds isn't the solution, work that explores "out-there" options like this one is still valuable, according to experts.

"You need to understand the early-stage physics of potential particles to then have the conversations about broader impacts," one climate policy researcher told the magazine.

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You know, I bet you could go an order of magnitude lower and use 200 billion to just build *@#* trains everywhere and slowly but surely start making cities walkable and getting rid of suburban sprawl would probably help at least as much as all these magical tech ideas floating around.

I will also preemptively just let all the American car enthusiasts know that they probably shouldn't waste time quoting me, I won't be reading your posts or answering questions on this, thanks.
 
Yeah not a great plan. Sun shades at the L1 would be far more effective and controllable and prob cost less overall with the launch cost per KG dropping like a stone over the last few years.
 
Wow, this must be DeBeers wet dream to have this happen. Also, any thoughts as to what diamond dust would do to the lungs of anyone breathing?
 
Nice to know that "They looked at factors like how well the particles disperse without clumping up, their atmospheric lifetimes, and whether they resist turning into acid rain."

But . . . did they look into the effects of breathing in diamond dust? Desert sand in the lungs--and asbestos--is bad enough, but diamond dust?

Those who propose this, who need to actually experiment to reach a conclusion about the safety thereof, and those who approve and fund this must be, IMHO, flippin' *****s whose braincells have already been seriously damaged by their research into the effects of imbibing alcohol, and not inhaling.

(NOTE that it was not me who blanked out that one word; it was the Techspot server. No wonder we're going downhill so fast; talk about failures to communicate!)
 
it can be controlled to some extend, e.g. reversing deforestation an pollution would work, and this dust actually as well but with many potential bad aftereffects.

Funny, there are one or two official government reports, both USA and others, which states definitively that we have more trees now than ever before. Yes, even in the Amazon . . .
 
Funny, there are one or two official government reports, both USA and others, which states definitively that we have more trees now than ever before. Yes, even in the Amazon . . .
Id love to see that, but even if such report exist of like to see that asterisk there;)
 
Techspot will not accept the URL, so search "agenda/2018/08/planet-earth-has-more-trees-than-it-did-35-years-ago
Found it, but this is not actually a very good change:
However, an important distinction needs to be made between tree cover and forest cover.

The study points out that industrial timber plantations, mature oil palm estates and other specifically planted forests add to global tree cover. On paper these areas compensate for the primary forest that has been cut down; 100-hectare loss of primary forest is perfectly offset by a 100-hectare gain on a man-made plantation, for example.

But while they may be equal in area, they are not equal in biodiversity. Primary tropical forests and savannas harbour a wealth of flora and fauna which is lost when these areas are cleared.

And man-made forests do not compensate for the damage and degradation done to ecosystems through land clearance.
 
Funny, there are one or two official government reports, both USA and others, which states definitively that we have more trees now than ever before. Yes, even in the Amazon . . .

Don't forget, Amazon, the company, will handle that. How many trees will be sacrificed for their "green" switch to 100% paper shipping materials?
 
Id love to see that, but even if such report exist of like to see that asterisk there;)

It's not hard to find. It's been the case for years that the U.S. has actually increased the number of trees. Just hard to find, since Google, et. al., seems to have inadvertent "mistakes" in their algorithms when ti contradicts their view of the world. Funny how the "mistakes" only work one way.
 
Found it, but this is not actually a very good change:
However, an important distinction needs to be made between tree cover and forest cover.

The study points out that industrial timber plantations, mature oil palm estates and other specifically planted forests add to global tree cover. On paper these areas compensate for the primary forest that has been cut down; 100-hectare loss of primary forest is perfectly offset by a 100-hectare gain on a man-made plantation, for example.

But while they may be equal in area, they are not equal in biodiversity. Primary tropical forests and savannas harbour a wealth of flora and fauna which is lost when these areas are cleared.

And man-made forests do not compensate for the damage and degradation done to ecosystems through land clearance.

Nice save, I had not anticipated the observation that growing more forests/trees is not good and does not help the climate issue due to them being the "wrong" kind of trees. :)
 
Techspot will not accept the URL, so search "agenda/2018/08/planet-earth-has-more-trees-than-it-did-35-years-ago
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/08/planet-earth-has-more-trees-than-it-did-35-years-ago/

The other thing to note is that this compares 1982 to 2016, not say 1900 or whatever date you want to apply to the start of deforestation by industrialized lumber harvesting. Since the stone age, mankind has been cutting down large areas of trees for whatever reason. The people of Easter Island completely removed the tree cover of their island using stone axes before they ever had contact with European explorers. The plains of the American midwest in states like Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio wer covered by oak forests before American settlers came in from the eastern seaboard and cleared the forest for crops over 200 hundred years ago. 1982 is likely close to the peak of deforestation, so what the article describes is not even a bandaid on the problem.

Also despite when Au Contraire states, "Yes, even in the Amazon . . .", the report he links shows that in South America and Brazil in particular deforestation increased in those 35 years, other continents were the ones where the tree cover increased. "As shown in the chart above, large tree losses in Brazil were balanced by canopy gains in Europe, Asia and North America."
 
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